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His suffering was to put away sin for us:.Hebrews 9:26 "For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world. But now once in the end of the world has he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."

So that now we can confidently know that nothing ever can come between us and God, even if we still sin:.1Peter 3:18 "For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God.(and what had to occur for this door to God to open for us? We had to be made righteous thanks to what Emmanuel did and that was a gift:.Romans 5:17; a gift is that which comes without obligations expected), being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit."

We are here to live life, to experience both the good and the evil, hopefully learning as we go along in life:.Hebrews 5:14.

Emmanuel knew what the mind of the Father always was regarding Him:.John 8:26-30.(re: verse 29; hope that you feel this way regarding yourself too), 38; 12:50; 14:6; 14:7-11.

Emmanuel knew He was perfect in the Father's eyes:.Hebrews 5:9. If we are in Him, meaning we have His same nature of love in us, how do you think the Father sees us? And God does see us.

Hebrews 4:13 "Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight, but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do."
Exodus 32:7 "And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get you down, for your people which you brought out of the land of Egypt have corrupted themselves."
2Chronicles 16:9 "For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth...".
Psalms 94:9 "He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?"
Psalms 139:11,12 "If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me, even the night shall be light about me. Yea, the darkness hides not from you, but the night shines as the day. The darkness and the light are both alike to you."
Proverbs 15:11 "Hell and destruction are before the Lord, how much more then the hearts of the children of men?"
Proverbs 20:12 "The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made both of them."
Jeremiah 32:19 "Great in counsel and mighty in work, for your eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men."

-How are we to suffer with Him?.Romans 8:17; Philippians 1:29; Philippians 2:8; 1Peter 2:21; 1Peter 4:1. Snd, scriptures many use in error, on suffering.

On Romans 8:17 see here.

On Philippians 1:29 see below on word suffer.

On Philippians 2:8 see here.

On 1Peter 2:21 click on that scripture above.

On 1Peter 4:1 see here.

The word 'suffer' can mean in a good or bad sense and therefore means 'experience' and much more:.1Peter 2:21,22. Here in the original, the word 'suffer' is 'to have been affected by'. It can also mean 'to allow' as used in Mark 7:12; 10:14 and to 'put up with'.(a having patience).as in Mark 9:19

Sometimes one suffers through no fault of his own:.1Peter 2:20,21; 1Peter 5:8-10

If Emmanuel was already perfect, why does it say in Hebrews 2:10 that God had to make Him perfect through sufferings?

We experience.with Him.if He is in us.(Philippians 3:10; 1Peter 4:13; 2:20,21).and we experience with others.(2Corinthians 1:7).when we are empathic.(feel for them). And when you get the impact of this, it is powerful.

It is Him that became perfect through sufferings.(Hebrews 2:10).and gave us the gift of His perfection. So now we can have the same empathy for others He had and do things like He did:.John 15:7.

We suffer in the bad sense if we do things that cause unhappiness. If you make someone unhappy, then it was an unpleasant experience for both. 

If you suffer or experience happy things, all well and good then:.1Peter 2:3; Hebrews 6:5

1Peter 4:1 says He suffered for us. How?.Hebrews 2:9
   He fulfilled suffering for us.Acts 3:18

And, what is this."suffering in the flesh to cease from sin".mentioned in.1Peter 4:1?

It is saying that Christ, when on Earth in the person of Emmanuel, was the one who suffered in the flesh and for us to arm ourselves with the same mind as He has:.Philippians 2:5,6.

And what is that? His mind is for all to have a relationship with the Father that He made possible.

Through this experience of life's ups and downs that play their part in us we become convinced what is good for us and others and what is not. From here we can regulate our lives with this knowledge, regulate them by the choices we make as we meet daily circumstances.

If we now suffer as He did it is in the same way He felt and now feels. Since He fulfilled all suffering so we could 'suffer' as it were for others; that is, take their pain upon us and heal them by love, that is, you have compassion for them and realize the energy that is Christ can heal them through your love being exuded toward them, similar to what Bruno Groening was like..

And He felt so strongly for others and so should we:.John 3:16,17. And so should we learn to be like Him. We are to learn and have not yet perhaps comprehended His suffering as we should have.(*), thinking that it meant only to tolerate or endure evil, injury, pain or death. It means so much more that.applies and tends to life, our daily living and our interactions with others.

The word."suffered".as the original has it, is."experienced both good and evil":.Hebrews 4:15. This is an example for us.

More on word 'suffer'.(*).(*).

How are we to follow the example of suffering of Christ as is mentioned in many scriptures? Or is this what this verse even means?

It does not make sense that God would come here in the person of Emmanuel.(Philippians 2:7), the one who unfolded His eternality becoming known as the Christ after His resurrection, suffer.(Isaiah 52:14).what He did so that we could have a relationship with the Everliving Infinite One of Intelligent Energy and become a member of His family and then inspire to be written that His type of suffering was also for us. It was.all finished.with Emmanuel, so our suffering doesn't mean suffering as in pain and anguish, but rather means experience, experience enough to learn what's good and what isn't good:.John 19:30. We are not to carry the type of anguish living and dying Emmanuel went through.(Matthew 26:39; John 10:10), but rather to emulate His example of high consciousness life:.1Timothy 4:12; John 20:31; 1Corinthians 10:11.

God looks after things that may come upon you unjustly:.2Timothy 3:12; 1Peter 2:20; 3:14,17; 4:16; 2Thessalonians 1:6. Some things are painful, but such is learning at times:.Philippians 4:13

The Creator builds your confidence in Him even if He has to engineer circumstances to do it:.1Peter 1:7; 4:19; Romans 8:28; Revelation 2:10. We are here to experience life with Christ in us.(2Timothy 2:12).so we get the highest reward we can get. What does 'Christ in us' mean?

Living life in the mind alone.(knowledge).does little good. Life will lack the reality necessary to cement character. It is good to imagine how you would react and act in situations.(this is contemplation), but then it is important to get out there and live your life. In this way you are taking action upon what it is that you have earlier learned and imagined. Don't sit around being a 'spiritual' couch potato, slowly turning yourself into one of the 'frozen chosen'. When you have interaction with others, you are using and adding to your character, what it is that is you.

There is no character development in just taking in knowledge. If we learn from a fault we have, that is good. You now have information and wisdom on that, but since we all act out of the heart, it is Christ's nature of love in you that is the hope of glory:.Colossians 1:27.

It is this nature in you that is the epitome of character qualities and that is making possible the attainment of your highest hopes in expressing the depth of character that you feel in your heart.

Some things to be aware of.


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